Why I Dislike Christians – Reason Number 7,622


As we have for the past five or six years, CFI-Pittsburgh marched and tabled at Pridefest. The hope is that we will make contact with rational people who, like us, have an evidence-based worldview but are not aware that there is a whole community of people here in the Greater Pittsburgh area that are like-minded and eager to connect with them. And occasionally, we do find such people.

But mixed in with those few are a myriad mix of people that don’t fall into that profile. Some of them are the same people that I have seen every year it seems, who engage in conversation and seem interested in our message and seem to be like-minded people. But you never hear from them or see them again until the next Pridefest. Of course, maybe it’s just me – maybe I’m just jaded and burnt out having done this every year for nearly a decade.

Then there are the ones who come to the table all friendly (like the woman with the big baby bump who talked with Jess briefly) and seem genuinely interested in our message – that is until someone utters the word(s) “nonbeliever” or “secular” or even worse *gasp* “atheist”. And then it’s like you turned off a switch – their demeanor goes all cold, they put down any literature that they may have picked up, and quickly walk away, perhaps in case a giant bolt of lightning should come down and strike the table and us heathens.

But that’s something that you get used to after you see it time and time again in varying degrees and levels of rudeness. Pretty soon you are used to it and let it just wash off your back.

But this year, I experienced something different. Around 5:00 this asshole came to our table and stood there for a little while looking over the myriad pieces of literature. Finally he pointed to a picture on the front of one of the more in-depth brochures (the picture showing the meme “You don’t need god to live, to love, and to be happy”) and boldly stated “That’s a lie!” Then he started rambling with some nonsense about being a paramedic (I didn’t realize that being a paramedic granted one special expertise in theology and philosophy) and he’s seen some things that prove that there’s a magic sky fairy etc.

After a couple of back and forths, I just decided to ignore him, but Alex and Kara tried to engage him in a rational conversation. They haven’t yet learned the difficult lesson that rational conversation with delusionals is not possible. As long as they hold to an epistemology that accepts nonsense and personal revelation as valid evidence, you are going nowhere with them. And while it may indeed be prudent when you are in a public forum to be civil and pretend to respect their point of view, I can’t do that. Fifty years of being marginalized in a culture that reveres ignorance and delusion (not to mention violence and greed) has made me rather thin-skinned when dealing with delusional morons. I have no problem with them being as stupid as they want (well, actually I do, but that’s another debate) but when they have the temerity to shove it in my face, I get real annoyed.

And that’s my real issue with this asshole – believe what you want, but don’t come into my space and call me a liar – unless, of course, you have credible, verifiable, quantifiable evidence. And that’s what he was doing. Since I am claiming to be happy without his sadistic sky monster, he is saying that I am a bald-faced liar with absolutely no valid evidence to make such a claim.

Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

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4 Responses to Why I Dislike Christians – Reason Number 7,622

  1. The Militant One says:

    You may be correct about planting a seed, but I seriously doubt it. Unless their epistemology changes, they are unable to even grasp the problems with their beliefs because to their way of thinking they have plenty of “evidence” to support those beliefs. So any demand for evidence or proof has already been met in their mind’s eye.

    But I think that what angers me the most about this clown is his self righteous arrogance in coming into my space to denounce me as a liar. I don’t go into his house of worship/delusion and call everybody there delusional morons even though I may think it. I just don’t need to waste my time conversing (or trying to) with them.

  2. Ammie-Marie Littke says:

    As they say, you can’t fight fire with fire. Try to remember the time when you did believe in a deity and that what all you knew. Most religious people have been trained to fear ANYTHING and EVERYTHING against God. Most religious people are more scared of the unknown than anything else in the world. Fear is one of the most powerful emotions a person can have. That’s the mindset you’re dealing with here. Remember what influenced you to become open-minded? Remember what influenced you to think outside of the box? That’s what you should share with others. Perhaps, once upon a time, you were somewhat like them until someone or something changed your mind. Take a step back and remember that. You can’t fight fire with fire.

    • The Militant One says:

      I hear what you are saying and to some extent agree with you. But I became an atheist more than 50 years ago, when I was around 14. And it wasn’t anything that anybody said to me that taught me differently. It was reading the bible and realizing how much of it was crap while at the same time observing the hypocrisy of so many who were claiming to be faithful followers. So if I as a 12-13 year old could recognize the fallacy, so can any so-called rational adult.

      And yes, part of my feeling is the residual anger at having been duped for the first dozen years of my life.

      • Ammie-Marie Littke says:

        It’s all about education and what people perceive to be as reality. Right now, most of the world is color blind in one eye and have been taught to believe that the color of the sky is orange. The other eye is not color blind at all, but it has been blindfolded to hide the true nature of the world around them.

        I couldn’t agree more about the hypocrisy. My aunt Nancy is 69 years old, has been divorced 4 times, believes that gay people are the devil’s advocate, and that she is a “warrior” of God. In the bible, there’s a passage within Matthew 19:7-9 that says, “They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?” He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.” She believes she is completely exempt from that statement. It doesn’t apply to her. She has a hard time accepting the reality of her own religion, let alone the world around her as it really is.

        Honestly, changing the mindset of believers is a huge undertaking, but it’s not impossible. You may never be able to change everyone… Well, maybe not today at least. But, you can’t say you didn’t try. Even throughout the argument, you guys convinced him think about his reality. You planted an idea seedling in his mental garden. At this point, it’s his responsibility to nurture it to see what will grow.

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