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		<title>Freethought Radio</title>
		<link>http://steelcityskeptics.net/2011/12/09/freethought-radio/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Strange and Away</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Freethought Radio for the Weekend of December 10, 2011 We&#8217;re bringing reason into the season. Its away with the manager on city property! Professor Stephen Hirtle of the University of Pittsburgh will give us an eyewitness account of one city&#8217;s &#8230; <a href="http://steelcityskeptics.net/2011/12/09/freethought-radio/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=steelcityskeptics.net&#038;blog=13845404&#038;post=1609&#038;subd=steelcityskeptics&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Freethought Radio for the Weekend of December 10, 2011</h3>
<p>We&#8217;re bringing reason into the season. Its away with the manager on city property! Professor Stephen Hirtle of the University of Pittsburgh will give us an eyewitness account of one city&#8217;s Holy War against the Constitution.</p>
<h3>Radio from the Secular Point of View</h3>
<p>Freethought Radio, from the secular point of view, broadcasts weekly and is hosted by Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-presidents of the Freedom From Religion Foundation. The show offers programming for nonreligious listeners, as well as countering the religious-right domination of our public airwaves. Freethought Radio features a regular &#8220;Theocracy Alert,&#8221; Dan&#8217;s &#8220;Pagan Pulpit,&#8221; &#8220;Freethinkers Almanac,&#8221; music and interviews with authors and activists. Check out Freethought Radio&#8217;s illustrious list of <a href="http://ffrf.org/news/radio/guests/" target="_blank">guests</a>, including Richard Dawkins, Julia Sweeney, Janeane Garafalo, Ron Reagan, Betty Rollins, Christopher Hitchens, Steven Pinker, Ursula K. Le Guin and so many other fascinating freethinkers, newsmakers and thinkers.</p>
<h3>Streaming</h3>
<p>Freethought Radio streams at <a href="http://themic921.com/" target="_blank">The Mic 92.1</a>, Madison, Wis., every Saturday from Noon &#8211; 1 PM EST.</p>
<h3>Podcast</h3>
<p>Podcasts are usually available <a href="http://ffrf.org/news/radio/shows/" target="_blank">here</a> Mondays by mid-morning. Or listen to Freethought Radio on iTunes. (Check back here for our weekly podcasts.)</p>
<p>For more information go to <a href="http://ffrf.org/news/radio/" target="_blank">http://ffrf.org/news/radio/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Rob Sherman talk this Tuesday</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 20:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tychoselk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This month&#8217;s Center for Inquiry discussion group offers a talk and Q&#38;A with journalist and atheist activist, Rob Sherman. You remember Mr. Sherman &#8212; Illinois Representative Monique Davis interrupted him while he testified before the Springfield House State Government Administration &#8230; <a href="http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/05/03/rob-sherman-talk-this-tuesday/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=steelcityskeptics.net&#038;blog=13845404&#038;post=500&#038;subd=steelcityskeptics&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This month&#8217;s<a href="http://www.centerforinquiry.net/pgh"> Center for Inquiry</a> discussion group offers a talk and Q&amp;A with journalist and atheist activist, Rob Sherman.</p>
<p>You remember Mr. Sherman &#8212; Illinois Representative Monique Davis interrupted him while he testified before the Springfield House State Government Administration Committee to spectacularly flip her shit:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know what you have against God, but some of us don&#8217;t have much against him. We look forward to him and his blessings&#8230; I&#8217;m trying to understand the philosophy that you want to spread in the state of Illinois&#8230; This is the land of Lincoln where people believe in God&#8230; What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous&#8230; It&#8217;s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists&#8230; Get out of that seat! You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is just a sample of Mr. Sherman&#8217;s experiences. Come out and join the discussion this Tuesday!</p>
<p><strong>When</strong>: Tuesday, May 5th 2009, 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm<br />
<strong>Where</strong>: Quaker Meeting House, 4836 Ellsworth Ave., Pittsburgh, PA 15213 (Oakland/Shadyside)</p>
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		<title>News &amp; links in and around Pittsburgh</title>
		<link>http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/02/18/news-links-in-and-around-pittsburgh/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tychoselk</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wanted to pass along some links I&#8217;ve been sent this week of interest to those in and around Pittsburgh . . . 1000 Plaintiffs for Newdow v. Roberts &#8212; Friends of Mike Newdow, a group of PA Nonbelievers, has set &#8230; <a href="http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/02/18/news-links-in-and-around-pittsburgh/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=steelcityskeptics.net&#038;blog=13845404&#038;post=428&#038;subd=steelcityskeptics&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to pass along some links I&#8217;ve been sent this week of interest to those in and around Pittsburgh . . .</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://1000plaintiffsfornewdowvroberts.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">1000 Plaintiffs for Newdow v. Roberts</a> &#8212; Friends of Mike Newdow, a group of PA Nonbelievers, has set up a website to assist Constitutional activist Mike Newdow &#8220;demonstrate that there is a lot of support for ending the offensive, exclusionary references to God&#8221; at future inaugurations, by finding 1,000 people to sign up as plaintiffs. You can go to their site for more information. (Thank you, Bill K.)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09049/949874-85.stm" target="_blank">Arab headgear causes stir in Gateway</a> &#8212; The Post-Gazette is reports that two students at Gateway High in Monroeville were told to leave school yesterday if they would not remove their kaffiyehs. News video from last night&#8217;s WPXI coverage of the story can be found <a href="http://www.wpxi.com/news/18737142/detail.html" target="_blank">here</a>. (Hat tip, Mel.)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.pittsburghcitypaper.ws//gyrobase/Content?oid=58807" target="_blank">Dead of Winter</a> &#8212; Pittsburgh City Paper reported on the spread of  white-nose syndrome, a deadly epidemic affecting bats, to Pennsylvania. Don&#8217;t care if we lose our bat population? Think giant swells of insects (and also, get a clue). Yeah. I said it. (Via my Google alert for bat news. Why are you making that face?)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.sepa.duq.edu/darwin/" target="_blank">Darwin 2009: A Pittsburgh Partnership</a> &#8212; An educational partnership promoting citywide events led by Duquesne University. Why should a prominent Catholic University do this?  <a href="http://www.sepa.duq.edu/darwin/why.html" target="_blank">They explain with their own bullet list</a>.</li>
<li>Skeptical of Pittsburgh&#8217;s ability to evolve and to retain it&#8217;s youth population? I feel you. The Port Authority is taking a step in the direction of modernity with their <a href="http://www.routeshout.com/" target="_blank">RouteShout beta</a>. Now at popular college stops you can text for the next bus arrival.</li>
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<p>And I gotta take this oppurtunity to remind you about <a href="http://www.steelcityskeptics.net/2009/02/12/drinking-skeptically-february-style/">Drinking Skeptically this Friday night</a>.</p>
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		<title>So do you want church/state separation or not?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CNN recently interviewed Jim Wallis and Erik Stanley about the Alliance Defense Fund&#8216;s attempt to let pastors make political endorsements from the pulpit. Watch the video below, or click here to see it on YouTube. What&#8217;s wrong here is painfully &#8230; <a href="http://steelcityskeptics.net/2008/09/14/so-do-you-want-churchstate-separation-or-not/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=steelcityskeptics.net&#038;blog=13845404&#038;post=163&#038;subd=steelcityskeptics&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN recently interviewed Jim Wallis and Erik Stanley about the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defense_Fund">Alliance Defense Fund</a>&#8216;s attempt to let pastors make political endorsements from the pulpit. Watch the video below, or click <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9vsNx5ooBU">here</a> to see it on YouTube.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong here is painfully obvious. In his typical fervor to infuse politics with non-partisan religious activism on social issues like poverty, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wallis">Jim Wallis</a> forgets to mention the black-and-white issue that puts this needless debate to rest: <span style="font-weight:bold;">it&#8217;s your tax-exempt status, stupid</span>.</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s saying that American citizens and normal, tax-paying businesses can&#8217;t make political endorsements. The whole point is that churches are typically non-profit organizations that are voluntarily limited by the same laws that apply to other organizations that get those tax breaks: they can&#8217;t be politically partisan. CNN mentioned this question at the beginning of the interview, but then no one addressed it at all until they read a random message board comment at the end&#8211;which ended up speaking more clearly about what&#8217;s really going on than Wallis and Stanley combined.</p>
<p>Besides awkwardly waltzing around the real issue, here&#8217;s what really bothered me about this video: Erik Stanley predictably set up the debate as a religious persecution issue, and no one called him out on it. Instead of acknowledging that pastors/churches are voluntarily surrendering their freedom of speech in this one area in order to attain tax-exempt status, he pretends like pastors are being persecuted by a government that is hell-bent on suppressing the free exercise of religion and crossing the &#8220;boundary between church and state&#8221; that he&#8217;s now so willing to talk about in a positive light (surprise!). I can&#8217;t imagine a set of circumstances that would make his plea appear more disingenuous: if you want separation of church and state, give up your special federal status, pay your taxes like everyone else, and watch this issue magically disappear.</p>
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