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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/08/05/tract-browsing/#comment-319</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 14:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the criminal injustice system, the object is to win - justice has nothing to do with anything. Just win, baby, win the conviction regardless of what the truth is or what is fair and just.

The same basic principle applies here. Truth or intellectual integrity have nothing to do with anything. It&#039;s all about saving souls for Jesus (or whichever sky fairy is being promoted). In fact untruths or any other unethical tactic in the pursuit of saving souls is perfectly acceptable. Promoting the sky fairy takes precedence over the well being or ethical treatment of their fellow human beings. To paraphrase a saying from the &#039;50s (an era which most fundies would like our society to revert to) - better dead than atheist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the criminal injustice system, the object is to win &#8211; justice has nothing to do with anything. Just win, baby, win the conviction regardless of what the truth is or what is fair and just.</p>
<p>The same basic principle applies here. Truth or intellectual integrity have nothing to do with anything. It&#8217;s all about saving souls for Jesus (or whichever sky fairy is being promoted). In fact untruths or any other unethical tactic in the pursuit of saving souls is perfectly acceptable. Promoting the sky fairy takes precedence over the well being or ethical treatment of their fellow human beings. To paraphrase a saying from the &#8217;50s (an era which most fundies would like our society to revert to) &#8211; better dead than atheist.</p>
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		<title>By: mikhailovich</title>
		<link>http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/08/05/tract-browsing/#comment-318</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly, some self-described Christians are more interested in Pascal&#039;s Wager than others. Who&#039;s the True Christian? Whichever Christian I&#039;m talking to at the time, so for now, I&#039;ll assume that True Christians don&#039;t really care about the Wager.

Not to belabor the point, but I want to get this straight: are you saying that if someone is willing to being regarded as a fool by society and put to death for a belief system, that their belief has validity on those grounds? I&#039;ll reply when I have your answer.

And incidentally, the Wager is talking about a &quot;safe bet&quot; for the &lt;em&gt;next&lt;/em&gt; life, not safety in &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, some self-described Christians are more interested in Pascal&#8217;s Wager than others. Who&#8217;s the True Christian? Whichever Christian I&#8217;m talking to at the time, so for now, I&#8217;ll assume that True Christians don&#8217;t really care about the Wager.</p>
<p>Not to belabor the point, but I want to get this straight: are you saying that if someone is willing to being regarded as a fool by society and put to death for a belief system, that their belief has validity on those grounds? I&#8217;ll reply when I have your answer.</p>
<p>And incidentally, the Wager is talking about a &#8220;safe bet&#8221; for the <em>next</em> life, not safety in <em>this</em> life.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Tennent</title>
		<link>http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/08/05/tract-browsing/#comment-317</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christians are, at most,  only mildly interested in Pascal&#039;s Wager.  Your criticism of it may be grounds for proving that the so-called \Christian\ tract you saw was surely sub-Christian. In fact, the NT never envisions Christians as a \safe bet\.  Precisely, the opposite.  To be a Christian was to be regarded as a fool, disenfranchised by the society, and, quite possibly, fed to the lions.  If anything, it was more of \safe bet\ to be crucified to a cross, or drowned, or put into the arena, or speared to death.  Nevertheless, they couldn&#039;t stop proclaiming what they had seen and heard.  Jesus Christ is Risen - and that was, for them, an indisputable fact.  Christians have never proclaimed a generic \god\ which could stand as a place holder for the \god of the philosophers\ or \Allah\ or \Nirguna Brahman\ or the \Tao\ or fill-in-the-blank.  Christianity stands or falls on our faith that Jesus Christ rose from the grave.  We proclaim Him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christians are, at most,  only mildly interested in Pascal&#8217;s Wager.  Your criticism of it may be grounds for proving that the so-called \Christian\ tract you saw was surely sub-Christian. In fact, the NT never envisions Christians as a \safe bet\.  Precisely, the opposite.  To be a Christian was to be regarded as a fool, disenfranchised by the society, and, quite possibly, fed to the lions.  If anything, it was more of \safe bet\ to be crucified to a cross, or drowned, or put into the arena, or speared to death.  Nevertheless, they couldn&#8217;t stop proclaiming what they had seen and heard.  Jesus Christ is Risen &#8211; and that was, for them, an indisputable fact.  Christians have never proclaimed a generic \god\ which could stand as a place holder for the \god of the philosophers\ or \Allah\ or \Nirguna Brahman\ or the \Tao\ or fill-in-the-blank.  Christianity stands or falls on our faith that Jesus Christ rose from the grave.  We proclaim Him.</p>
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		<title>By: BillK</title>
		<link>http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/08/05/tract-browsing/#comment-316</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the criminal injustice system, the object is to win - justice has nothing to do with anything. Just win, baby, win the conviction regardless of what the truth is or what is fair and just.

The same basic principle applies here. Truth or intellectual integrity have nothing to do with anything. It&#039;s all about saving souls for Jesus (or whichever sky fairy is being promoted). In fact untruths or any other unethical tactic in the pursuit of saving souls is perfectly acceptable. Promoting the sky fairy takes precedence over the well being or ethical treatment of their fellow human beings. To paraphrase a saying from the &#039;50s (an era which most fundies would like our society to revert to) - better dead than atheist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the criminal injustice system, the object is to win &#8211; justice has nothing to do with anything. Just win, baby, win the conviction regardless of what the truth is or what is fair and just.</p>
<p>The same basic principle applies here. Truth or intellectual integrity have nothing to do with anything. It&#8217;s all about saving souls for Jesus (or whichever sky fairy is being promoted). In fact untruths or any other unethical tactic in the pursuit of saving souls is perfectly acceptable. Promoting the sky fairy takes precedence over the well being or ethical treatment of their fellow human beings. To paraphrase a saying from the &#8217;50s (an era which most fundies would like our society to revert to) &#8211; better dead than atheist.</p>
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		<title>By: Iason Ouabache</title>
		<link>http://steelcityskeptics.net/2009/08/05/tract-browsing/#comment-315</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Islam doesn&#039;t have the worst hell, Cthulu does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam doesn&#8217;t have the worst hell, Cthulu does.</p>
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